That sort of thing happens all the time.

ianosheabutter:

I don’t want to be here to shit on people’s fandoms. i *get* liking problematic things; i am a long term fan of the work of people like joss whedon and bryan fuller, i play galge, i like music. and i FEEL a lot of the things being said in this slideshow, so i can understand their (obvious) importance to the author. i am (theoretically) on board with exploring ideas about weaponized femininity and “taking your full power into your own hands” (this is awesome).

i REALLY wish they’d been more honest about the problematic elements beyond a vague call out about “a lot of triggering things (being) present.” it feels disingenuous to deliberately avoid any direct call outs about WHAT you clearly recognize as problematic elements in the film. the analysis feels really incomplete and that bothers me. sucker punch starts out really rapey in a way that i felt was pretty unnecessary. what about that? i’m wrong because i think that makes it not-awesome, even aside from any other elements, because for me, with my experiences as a survivor, that is a dealbreaker? am i reading this wrong? because it kinda sounds like that’s what that first slide is saying to me.

but the part i REALLY want to talk about is the slide about the scene with the high roller. the one with the large-font “CONSENT” at the top. what in the holy fuck is this slide trying to pull?

homie, if the terms and conditions to your sexual activity include your potential future freedom, then you are not consenting. if he had said, “ayo, check out your new freedom, also wanna fuck?” then sure, i’d be down with talking about the awesome consent content here. but he doesn’t. he says: “now, of course, for such a gem i am willing to give as well. i’m willing to give you freedom. pure, and total freedom.” how is that a good guy and not a manipulative and kindof scary person, masquerading as a nice guy? consent happens when the consenting person is free to make whichever choice they like, and here the high roller is holding babydoll’s freedom over her head as a condition of her choice. that is not consent!! that is kindof really fucking gross and coercive!

i’d also like to point out that you don’t actually see babydoll physically respond to his proposition until after he’s said the words quoted above. RELEVANT.

there are a lot of other problems with this movie that i just don’t even want to get into. and yes, i am willing to acknowledge that there are good things too, and those things are important to some people. i have no desire to take that from them. but i DO wish that those people would be more forthright in their analysis. it doesn’t make it bad for you to like something that you can name problems with; it makes you and your assessments of those things more trustworthy.

(Source: flanoirbunny)